This International Zine Month Iāve been interviewing a series of zinemakers so we can get to know them and their zine making process a bit better! The first one is from the excellent Janet of [too many zines to mention!]
Hey Janet! Happy International Zine Month! How is life going at the moment? For people who don’t know you, can you tell me a bit about yourself?
Hey Vicky! Iām currently living in Leicester – I was in the process of moving back home to West Yorkshire when Covid hit and everything got delayed. Iāve been making zines for 25 years (or rather, I started making zines 25 years ago and then had quite a long break in the middle before returning to them about 8 years ago). Outside of zines, I like books, cats, solitude and sunshine, so Iāve been managing pretty well with lockdown all things considered.
How did you originally get into zines? I remember you mentioning to me once that you made a lot of zines back in the ’90s, can you tell me a bit more about those? And what inspired you to get back into zine making? Do you feel zine culture has shifted much?
When I was 15/16 I got very into alternative and indie music, which made me even more of a weirdo at my Bradford comprehensive. Wanting to not feel so isolated, I started sending off for the music fanzines I saw advertised in the back of NME and Melody Maker and once I’d read a few, I thought āI could do this!ā And so I did. Itās quite weird to think of how self-confident I was capable of being back then: Iād somehow found out that if you wrote music zines, you could get free records and gig tickets so I started phoning up the PR departments of record companies and asking to be put onto guest listsā¦ and it worked!
I was this strange teenager in Yorkshire doing her A Levels and with maybe 30 people buying each issue of my fanzine, but London music PRs would be like āyeah of course you can go and see Ash for free, fancy interviewing them too?ā It was every teenage music nerdās dream, and I pretty much stopped working on my A Levels and spent two years going to gigs, meeting bands, and then writing about it.
And in the meantime I also started a perzine, which in retrospect was mostly standard teenage whining about no-one understanding me. It was all done by post in those days (āthose daysā ha I sound like a right grandma!) so Iād put an ad in the music press or on Ceefax and then people would send their pound coin and self addressed envelope, and Iād send them a zine back. And quite often theyād end up writing back and youād become pen pals; I met so many people that way who ended up becoming friends.
Then I went to university and gradually stopped making zines for various reasons, and it was only in my early 30s that I returned to them. Iād become friends with Laura through blogging and sheād made zines in the past and wanted to get back into it, and so the two of us were sort of āok letās do thisā and planned a trip to Sheffield Zine Fest. We came home loaded down with zines and fired up with inspiration, and the following year we went back to table and sell the five zines weād made between us in the intervening year.
One of the biggest shifts in zine culture is how the internet enables the promotion and distribution of zines, and also makes organising zine fairs easier. Maybe there were zine fairs happening in 1994 but I just didnāt know about them. But now thatās a central part of my zine making; going to zine fairs and meeting other zinesters. And perhaps itās because I mostly made music fanzines in the 90s, but the scene seems much less male-oriented now. In the 90s it was pretty evenly split but now itās predominately women and non-binary people who you see selling at zine fairs.
Your zines are often about very personal topics (your experiences with abortion, being childfree, being a child of immigrants and your familyās history). Are you generally an open book day-to-day or are zines a kind of outlet for that?
I am not at ALL an open book usually! While Iām happy to be open about having an abortion, for example (and in fact think itās really important to do so to help normalise it), I wonāt generally talk about the messy feelings that go along with it. Even with my partner or my best friends I can be quite closed off about my emotions, so I do think zines are an outlet for working through complicated feelings about important events or elements of my life.
Youāve also made a few zines collaboratively (like Mixtape and Do You Remember the First Time?) ā how does that experience differ for you from making a zine on your own? I really love Do You Remember the First Time? in particular because the stories of people having sex for the first time vary so much, what inspired you to put that together?
Making collaborative zines is not my favourite to be honest! I was that kid at school who hated group projects because I like to be in complete control, so working with another editor, like I did on Mixtape, is a challenge for me. But totally worth it because the finished zine is different to anything Iād make on my own (which is sort of the point). Iāve learned that I manage better with a zine like Do You Remember The First Time, where itās just me putting it together but taking submissions from other people.
And Iām glad you love Do You Remember The First Time, because of all the zines Iāve made itās the one Iām most proud of. I canāt even remember what inspired me to start collecting stories, but I always had a really clear vision that I wanted the zine to examine the notion of āvirginity lossā and how problematic that is from a feminist perspective, from a queer perspective, from a trans perspectiveā¦ Itās incredible that so many people were willing to tell their stories – the good, the bad, the funny, the sad – and Iām so pleased that it represents a variety of experiences and bodies and sexualities. Itās the zine that I always ātalk upā at zine fairs because I love it so much!
You sent me your zines very early in my distroing days (and you were the very person whose work I printed other than my own too!) Before that we didn’t know each at all – and getting to know you online and chatting at zine fests since has been one of the highlights of starting Pen Fight for me. What have zines been like more generally for you as a means of connecting with new people?
Ah I didn’t know this! And yep totally agree that meeting you has been one of my highlights š For me, the people are what make the zine world so special. As a general rule zinesters are socially awkward, shy, anxious (and lots of us are neurodiverse too) so zine fairs, where we have to be sociable and talk to people about our work, are pretty weird. But I always have such a nice time catching up with old friends and meeting new ones. Most of my zine pals live in the north and so Iāve not always been able to hang out with people other than at fairs, so one of the things Iām most looking forward to about moving is being able to have IRL hangs with zine friends (well, thatās if Covid allows for itā¦).
Do you get people reaching out to you after reading your zines often? I can imagine it can be quite liberating for people to read your zines (in particular Brick which is a very open account of your getting an abortion). Is this something you had in mind when you were making Brick?
Itās something that happens a lot with Brick, but not with my other zines. I think because abortion is still considered a taboo subject, Iām often the first person outside of those closest to them that people will talk to about their abortion. Itās beyond humbling to have people contact me to say how much it resonated with their own experiences.
I always say that regardless of what I do in my career (I was a teacher, am now an education researcher), Brick will be the most important thing Iāve ever written because it seems to have that power to resonate with readers. Which was never my intention! I started working on it because the #shoutyourabortion movement was just beginning and I felt that talking more openly about abortion was important. And I also had some residual emotional stuff to work through, and making the zine helped with that.
The fact itās so popular is really nice, and I get messages from people from all over the world about it. If I recall correctly, it was you who sent a copy to Mumbai Zine Library years ago, and Brick even ended up being featured in the Hindu Times newspaper!
Do you have any zine making tips you can share?
Oh gosh I feel like Iām such an amateur (which, I guess, is sort of the point of zines). I still make everything using cut and paste sheets of paper, rather than doing digital layouts! I think my biggest zine making tip is to just do itā¦ donāt worry about it needing to look perfect or professional because to me thatās the antithesis of what zines should be.
Can you share some of your favourite things from the zine world?
Eek, Iām definitely going to miss someone important out! I need to shout out some of my favourite zine fests – Weirdo Zine Fest, @sheffieldzinefest, @nwzinefest, @lincolnzinefest, @overherezinefest and @bradfordzinefair and all of their organisers. Presses and distros I love include Synchronise Witches Press, Black Lodge Press, Easter Road Press, Vampire Hag Distro and, of course, Pen Fight Distro! Iām also really loving the output of Irregular Zines – the Sew Irregular zines are brilliant and their recent Five Things I Wish Iād Learnt At School About Empire is essential reading.
Do you have any projects youāre working on right now?
Iām currently seeking submissions for a zine about Joanna Newsom (to be called Heartbroken & Inchoate) so would love it if people got in touch with me about that at jbistheinitial@gmail.com
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